Terry Gross: You wrote recently that thanks to President Trump’s populist rhetoric, the most romanticized figure in America now is the blue-collar worker of yesteryear. Who do you think he’s romanticizing, and how does that compare with what you see when you look back on the “Golden Age?”
Rick Wartzman: He really has romanticized the blue-collar figure in America. But when you look back, the history’s actually a lot messier.